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10 years 5 months ago - 10 years 5 months ago #37214 by Evil_g
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In slightly better news, the attendance on Friday (as announced at the game and reported by Accidentally Onside, not as reported on the Pro 12 website) seems to have set a new record for a visit by Treviso.

Connacht v.2015-162014-152013-142012-132011-122010-112009-10
Newport Gwent Dragons3,6244,1234,0334,9583,7061,3711,485
Cardiff Blues3,2745,2475,1683,8693,9961,8561,425
Zebre3,99454864,0844,856
Edinburgh Rugby3,83452674,0384,9304,3241,5861,460
Benetton Treviso433438803,8504,1123,6141,563
Ulster Rugby59215,4856,4635,0173,7612,435
Scarlets5,6314,1724,0743,4081,1351,756
Ospreys52263,8884,6804,1072,0351,412
Leinster Rugby5,9177,2105,8136,5824,5823,250
Munster Rugby77456,2277,7897,0224,7954,125
Glasgow Warriors44304,1856,0814,1891,2681,982
Average3,8125,3524,7585,2394,5972,3952,148



We're still well down on the last few years though. Tracing the 2011 season match for match weirdly enough.


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10 years 6 months ago #36772 by swift4prez
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They are not bad crowds, its around your average pro12 crowd.
Without anything to back it up, im suggesting that maybe the branch have stopped pulling numbers out of thin air?
Re clan tickets on sale, what used to happen for the last few seasons was, told back clan tickets so people would have no choice but buy main stand. Then when it was closer to match day, they would put the remaining clan tickets on sale for people who "i left it late, if im not in the clan, im not going".

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10 years 6 months ago #36770 by Evil_g
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Now that I think of it, there was a World Cup in 2011 as well wasn't there.

Still though.

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10 years 6 months ago #36768 by Borders no.2
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I wouldn't panic yet. Figures aren't hectic but looking at some of the other attendances its clear the World Cup is having an impact. Edinburgh have made a good start but both their attendances are around 1,000 or more down on their opening games of last season, Leinster down a couple of thousand and even at that looking at a bit of that game Saturday it was one of the smaller crowds I've seen at a Leinster game. Munster similarly despite a good start to the season. Of course the impact of the early K/O time for these teams last Friday has to be taken into account.

I'd say a lot of floating supporters are going with the World Cup. There just isn't an hype around the league at the moment with so much going on elsewhere. The only benefit for the league will hopefully be in Europe in that they may be better able to balance their league and European obligations than the English with their condensed season.

In general for the opening rounds we struggle to catch the imagination, the further we head into Autumn and Winter crowds will improve after the World Cup.
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10 years 6 months ago - 10 years 6 months ago #36765 by Evil_g
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Maybe it's a bit early to panic, what with the All Ireland Final and Rugby World Cup to compete with, but you have to go back to the 2010/11 season to find ("official") attendances as low as those for our first two home league games this season.

There are still Clan tickets available online for all upcoming games including Newcastle and Ulster. I'm quite sure that these were snapped up very quickly in previous seasons.

Connacht v.2015-162014-152013-142012-132011-122010-112009-10
Newport Gwent Dragons3,6244,1234,0334,9583,7061,3711,485
Cardiff Blues3,2745,2475,1683,8693,9961,8561,425
Zebre54864,0844,856
Edinburgh Rugby52674,0384,9304,3241,5861,460
Benetton Treviso38803,8504,1123,6141,563
Ulster Rugby59215,4856,4635,0173,7612,435
Scarlets5,6314,1724,0743,4081,1351,756
Ospreys52263,8884,6804,1072,0351,412
Leinster Rugby5,9177,2105,8136,5824,5823,250
Munster Rugby77456,2277,7897,0224,7954,125
Glasgow Warriors44304,1856,0814,1891,2681,982
Average5,3524,7585,2394,5972,3952,148
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10 years 10 months ago #35323 by Shelflife
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Yeah Pro 12 is all the season tickets plus walk ups. European games are actual numbers of those present.

So ive been led to believe.

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10 years 10 months ago #35320 by salmson
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biffo77 wrote: On Munster's halt of downward trend, have they really stopped, or are they padding the figures by including season ticket holders in attendance, if even they don't actually attend the match. This has been talked about on several forums, etc., and indeed, the crowd in the stands doesn't match the attendance figures.


AFAIK all Pro 12 attendance figures are tickets sold, not supporters in attendance. It's very obvious Thomond has been less than half full on a good number of occasions this year.

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10 years 10 months ago #35314 by biffo77
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On Munster's halt of downward trend, have they really stopped, or are they padding the figures by including season ticket holders in attendance, if even they don't actually attend the match. This has been talked about on several forums, etc., and indeed, the crowd in the stands doesn't match the attendance figures.

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10 years 10 months ago - 10 years 10 months ago #35300 by Evil_g
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This season versus last season is probably a much fairer comparison because, with Heineken Cup Rugby in 2012/13, there would have been a much higher number of season tickets sold, and these would have been counted in the Pro 12 figures whether they turned up or not.

The 2012/13 figures show what might have been possible next season (or the season after?) of course.
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10 years 10 months ago - 10 years 10 months ago #35299 by Evil_g
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Connacht Rugby - Pro 12 Attendance per Opponent

Connacht v.2014-152013-142012-132011-122010-112009-10
Newport Gwent Dragons4,1234,0334,9583,7061,3711,485
Leinster Rugby5,9177,2105,8136,5824,5823,250
Cardiff Blues5,2475,1683,8693,9961,8561,425
Zebre54864,0844,856
Scarlets5,6314,1724,0743,4081,1351,756
Munster Rugby77456,2277,7897,0224,7954,125
Edinburgh Rugby52674,0384,9304,3241,5861,460
Benetton Treviso38803,8504,1123,6141,563
Ulster Rugby59215,4856,4635,0173,7612,435
Glasgow Warriors44304,1856,0814,1891,2681,982
Ospreys52263,8884,6804,1072,0351,412
Average5,3524,7585,2394,5972,3952,148




*Outliers are usually a Christmas Interpro.
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10 years 10 months ago #35298 by Evil_g
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Cumulative attendance per season, updated.

Could / should attendances for the second half of the season have been better given what was at stake? Perhaps if we'd beaten Edinburgh they might have been?


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10 years 10 months ago - 10 years 10 months ago #35268 by galway_gas
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updated cumulative attendances attached (pro12 only)
A few points
1 Our biggest average attendance yet: 5352
2. Ulster have almost doubled in last 3 years - if you build it he will come.
3. Munster have reversed their downward trend - despite reopening of Musgrave park mid season
4. Judgement day in Millennium stadium has been a great success almost 53,000 - which I've divided between the 2 "home teams" this skews the data a little. Would expect blues and dragons to be down next season. Our own judgement day in Aviva between xmas and new year would be great: Ulster/Munster and Leinster/Connacht.
5. 15% increase in attendances across the board in last 4 years from 966,000 to 1,116,000


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11 years 4 months ago - 11 years 4 months ago #31172 by salmson
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09/10 was the season of the really big freeze, so the last 2 games were Leinster (postponed) and Munster.

10/11 we had the interpros as our 2nd, 3rd, and 5th home games.

So the apparent "tailing off" of attendances in 2010/11 isn't real, all we're seeing is how much attendances were skewed by the Interpros in the "bad old days".

(There were two really "bad" attendences in the sceond half or 2010/2011; these were against the newly introduced Italian teams, and therefore not comparable to the previous season.)
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11 years 4 months ago - 11 years 4 months ago #31171 by Decadence
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Evil_g wrote: (What the hell happened in early 2011 by the way? 2010 was the year of the big freezes.)

Wikipedia wrote: During the course of the season, the loss of a number of key players, such as Sean Cronin and Ian Keatley, were announced, with the players signing to Connacht's provincial rivals for the start of the following season.


That was the year all the players were limited to one year contracts and they swooped in for our young talent. From what I remember the mood was pretty grim at the time, we were in serious danger of being shut down, just one possible explanation.

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11 years 4 months ago - 11 years 4 months ago #31170 by Evil_g
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Cumulative attendance per season anyone?

Far from seeing a drop off as we fall out of contention, for the last few seasons the Christmas interpros seem to have given attendances a boost that continues through the Spring.

If we're scrapping for a Champions Cup Place, and our back line is lighting the place up, crowds will only improve as the weather does.

(What the hell happened in early 2011 by the way? 2010 was the year of the big freezes.)


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11 years 4 months ago #31157 by tickingover
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galway_gas wrote:

tickingover wrote: See attached regression analysis of all Connacht Home Games in the league for the last 11 years, since the league went to single table format.


Any correlation between attendances and whether game was televised?


Don't have a list of televised games, if I could get one it wouldn't be hard to include.
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