Challenge Cup 2018/19

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3 months 3 days ago #64620 by MulMan
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They used to, but Virgin Media have the rights now so there'll be highlights of the game tomorrow along with the other provinces at 10.10pm I think.

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3 months 3 days ago #64621 by MulMan
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The quarter-final matches to be played on 29/30/31 March are as follows:

QF 1: ASM Clermont Auvergne v Northampton Saints
QF 2: Worcester Warriors v Harlequins
QF 3: Sale Sharks v Connacht Rugby
QF 4: La Rochelle v Bristol Bears

Dates and all that yet to be confirmed.
However, as I understand it if Bristol and ourselves both won (I know big if) we would play the semi at home.

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3 months 2 days ago - 3 months 2 days ago #64627 by fatgav
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Edited to fix an error. Was working off old info
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3 months 1 day ago #64635 by RockSalt
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Interesting. On the Bristol forum they say if both Connacht and they win then Bristol will be at home.

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3 months 1 day ago #64637 by pinky
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No, Bristol are definitely away either way as they're 7th seeds.
Under last season's rules, Connacht would have been guaranteed a home semi if they won. But for some reason they changed that perfectly sensible rule and now semi-final home advantage is decided purely on the basis of pool seeding, higher seed at home. So we'd be away to La Rochelle or home to Bristol.

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3 months 1 day ago #64638 by salmson
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"If the clubs ranked 6 and 7 win their QFs, the club ranked 6 will have home venue advantage"

www.epcrugby.com/challenge-cup/format/rules/
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2 months 4 weeks ago #64678 by neill_m
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QF details expected to be confirmed on Friday morning.
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2 months 4 weeks ago #64687 by neill_m
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Friday 29 March
QF 3: Sale Sharks v Connacht Rugby, AJ Bell Stadium (19.45); BT Sport / beIN SPORTS

Saturday 30 March
QF 2: Worcester Warriors v Harlequins, Sixways (20.15) BT Sport / beIN SPORTS

Sunday 31 March
QF 4: La Rochelle v Bristol Bears, Stade Marcel Deflandre (13.45) beIN SPORTS / BT Sport
QF 1: ASM Clermont Auvergne v Northampton Saints (19.00) FR 4 / beIN SPORTS / BT Sport
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2 months 4 weeks ago #64704 by superconnacht7
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Cheers Lads, interesting how we have to wait until Sunday afternoon (after our game on Friday night) to find out if we play Bristol Bears in the semi.

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2 months 4 weeks ago #64709 by pinky
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Good to see that none of the fixtures clash with the Champions Cup and they're all televised. So after dealing with Sale, we can spend the rest of the weekend watching rugby.
There's even a chance to get up to Murrayfield or across to Dublin in time for one or other of them (though Edinburgh probably involves too early a start).

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2 months 1 week ago #64926 by neill_m
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Sale/Connacht - Mathieu Raynal
Worcester/Quins - Alexandre Ruiz
La Rochelle/Bristol - John Lacey
Clermont/Saints - George Clancy

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2 weeks 5 days ago #65455 by pinky
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So that is that then.
Our only interest left in this competition now is the possibility of an extra qualifying spot for the Pro 14 as a result of it (though actually who wins it is irrelevant in that context).
The other quarter final results worked out well, so there's a decent chance that all 4 semi-finalists will already be qualified via their leagues. Quins and Clermont are shoo-ins. Sale and La Rochelle are 6th and 7th respectively.
Of course we would also need Leinster or Munster to win the Champions Cup.
In that case, if we end up behind Cardiff, we would still qualify automatically without a playoff as long as we have more points than the fourth placed team in the other conference (we're currently 5 ahead of Edinburgh).
A lot of moving parts there and hopefully won't be needed, but good to have another route in.
If nothing else it gives some interest in the relevant Premiership and Top 14 games.
So Sale to beat Quins, Bristol to beat Bath (7th), La Rochelle to beat Castres, etc. this weekend ...

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2 weeks 5 days ago - 2 weeks 5 days ago #65457 by neill_m
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pinky wrote: So that is that then.
Our only interest left in this competition now is the possibility of an extra qualifying spot for the Pro 14 as a result of it (though actually who wins it is irrelevant in that context).
The other quarter final results worked out well, so there's a decent chance that all 4 semi-finalists will already be qualified via their leagues. Quins and Clermont are shoo-ins. Sale and La Rochelle are 6th and 7th respectively.
Of course we would also need Leinster or Munster to win the Champions Cup.
In that case, if we end up behind Cardiff, we would still qualify automatically without a playoff as long as we have more points than the fourth placed team in the other conference (we're currently 5 ahead of Edinburgh).
A lot of moving parts there and hopefully won't be needed, but good to have another route in.
If nothing else it gives some interest in the relevant Premiership and Top 14 games.
So Sale to beat Quins, Bristol to beat Bath (7th), La Rochelle to beat Castres, etc. this weekend ...



So in simple terms, if the Pro 14 get the 20th spot, there is no need for the playoff? In the draw the "playoff winner" and the 20th spot side would both be in Pot 4 of the draw.
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2 weeks 5 days ago #65459 by pinky
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neill_m wrote: So in simple terms, if the Pro 14 get the 20th spot, there is no need for the playoff?


You would think so. 8 teams = 4 from each conference. But not based on the announcement they made from last season (which wasn't needed in the end): www.pro14rugby.org/2018/05/01/how-pro14-...-if-awarded-by-epcr/
I presume the logic is that they have to have a playoff because they've already sold the TV rights. Of course they might change it again this year. It doesn't actually say that will be the rule going forward and it doesn't appear in the official rules.

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2 weeks 5 days ago #65461 by Podge57
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Our only interest left in this competition now is the possibility of an extra qualifying spot for the Pro 14 as a result of it (though actually who wins it is irrelevant in that context).

Pinky. How does this happen? Tx.

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2 weeks 4 days ago #65465 by neill_m
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Ok so if the Pro 14 gets the extra spot, the 4th placed side with more points gets it and then the other 4th placed side would play the 5th placed side in the other conference with home advantage determined via points over the season.

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