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9 years 2 months ago #51923 by Sol_ie
Replied by Sol_ie on topic Quarter Final Qualification (Champions Cup)
Nope, the aviva is less of a 'home' venue than thomond. Besides, I'd prefer to face Leinster (barely!)

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9 years 2 months ago #51917 by connachta
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btw do you think Thomond would be prefered to the Aviva in this situation?

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9 years 2 months ago #51916 by connachta
Replied by connachta on topic Quarter Final Qualification (Champions Cup)

wp_rathead wrote:

connachta wrote: So it's tight everywhere but if I'm doing the maths right (assuming Wasps BP in Parma) :
Done this fast, open to checking...

Connacht to lose by 8 --- out of it
Connacht to lose by 6 or by 7 points --- (away) QF against Munster!!!!
Connacht to win without BP, to draw or to lose by 1 to 5 points --- away QF against Sarries
Connacht to win with BP by less than 62 point-margin ---- (away) QF against Leinster!!!!
Connacht to win with BP by more than 62 point-margin ---- (home) QF against Leinster!!!


Thanks for doing that out
If Connacht lose by 8+ but get a TBP (and Toulouse don't) - will it be Munster away?


Yes I think so! :)

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9 years 2 months ago #51915 by wp_rathead
Replied by wp_rathead on topic Quarter Final Qualification (Champions Cup)

connachta wrote: So it's tight everywhere but if I'm doing the maths right (assuming Wasps BP in Parma) :
Done this fast, open to checking...

Connacht to lose by 8 --- out of it
Connacht to lose by 6 or by 7 points --- (away) QF against Munster!!!!
Connacht to win without BP, to draw or to lose by 1 to 5 points --- away QF against Sarries
Connacht to win with BP by less than 62 point-margin ---- (away) QF against Leinster!!!!
Connacht to win with BP by more than 62 point-margin ---- (home) QF against Leinster!!!


Thanks for doing that out
If Connacht lose by 8+ but get a TBP (and Toulouse don't) - will it be Munster away?

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9 years 2 months ago #51914 by DaveOC21
Replied by DaveOC21 on topic Quarter Final Qualification (Champions Cup)

connachta wrote: So it's tight everywhere but if I'm doing the maths right (assuming Wasps BP in Parma) :
Done this fast, open to checking...

Connacht to lose by 8 --- out of it
Connacht to lose by 6 or by 7 points --- (away) QF against Munster!!!!
Connacht to win without BP, to draw or to lose by 1 to 5 points --- away QF against Sarries
Connacht to win with BP by less than 62 point-margin ---- (away) QF against Leinster!!!!
Connacht to win with BP by more than 62 point-margin ---- (home) QF against Leinster!!!


Just looked at this before I logged on and got the same result. Regardless of who we play getting to the QF is what we want! :)
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9 years 2 months ago #51912 by connachta
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Decadence wrote:

connachta wrote: I know but I hate those namings "Allianz, Aviva, Ricoch..."
I stop there, no politics I was told :p


I think you're confusing politics with geography!


You got my point, even if they moved into a new stadium, I'm reluctant to say the name "Allianz Park" and I don't know if there's another one

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9 years 2 months ago #51910 by Decadence
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connachta wrote: I know but I hate those namings "Allianz, Aviva, Ricoch..."
I stop there, no politics I was told :p


I think you're confusing politics with geography!

"Our march is quite slow y'know, when we get to where we want to get to, it's going to take time, but when we get there it's going to be fantastic." - Johnny O'Connor 2013
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9 years 2 months ago #51909 by connachta
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I know but I hate those namings "Allianz, Aviva, Ricoch..."
I stop there, no politics I was told :p

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9 years 2 months ago #51907 by Decadence
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connachta wrote:

Decadence wrote: The other results have not exactly gone our way, a couple more/less points for saracens/glasgow and we'd be guaranteed to avoid saracens.


That's a real pity for all-Ireland QF chances, but TBF, on a pure rugby point of view, I don't think a trip to Vicrage road is worse than facing any of Munster/Leinster in the Aviva, this season...


Well a trip to Vicarage Road would be fine with me, but they haven't played there in 4 years!

"Our march is quite slow y'know, when we get to where we want to get to, it's going to take time, but when we get there it's going to be fantastic." - Johnny O'Connor 2013

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9 years 2 months ago #51906 by connachta
Replied by connachta on topic Quarter Final Qualification (Champions Cup)

Decadence wrote: The other results have not exactly gone our way, a couple more/less points for saracens/glasgow and we'd be guaranteed to avoid saracens.


That's a real pity for all-Ireland QF chances, but TBF, on a pure rugby point of view, I don't think a trip to Vicrage road is worse than facing any of Munster/Leinster in the Aviva, this season...

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9 years 2 months ago #51905 by connachta
Replied by connachta on topic Quarter Final Qualification (Champions Cup)
The case in which we lose by 5 is peculiarly facinating and not unrealistic

Sarries are 3rd seed behind Munster only for a 2-point aggregate difference
And we would face them as 6th seed, ahead of Glasgow, with same number of points but also exact same aggregate difference, just resolved by more tries scored!

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9 years 2 months ago #51904 by Decadence
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The other results have not exactly gone our way, a couple more/less points for saracens/glasgow and we'd be guaranteed to avoid saracens.

"Our march is quite slow y'know, when we get to where we want to get to, it's going to take time, but when we get there it's going to be fantastic." - Johnny O'Connor 2013

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9 years 2 months ago #51903 by eezipc
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connachta wrote: So it's tight everywhere but if I'm doing the maths right (assuming Wasps BP in Parma) :
Done this fast, open to checking...

Connacht to lose by 8 --- out of it
Connacht to lose by 6 or by 7 points --- (away) QF against Munster!!!!
Connacht to win without BP, to draw or to lose by 1 to 5 points --- away QF against Sarries
Connacht to win with BP by less than 62 point-margin ---- (away) QF against Leinster!!!!
Connacht to win with BP by more than 62 point-margin ---- (home) QF against Leinster!!!

Thanks for that Connachta. But just to be clear, does anyone have any update to contradict this? I'll be sittting in the middle of Toulouse fans so I don't want to make a holy show of myself if Connacht lose by 6.
Also, what doToulouse need to qualify? Also, I'm thinking that they can only get an away quarter so hopefully they couldn't be arsed.

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9 years 2 months ago - 9 years 2 months ago #51902 by connachta
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So it's tight everywhere but if I'm doing the maths right (assuming Wasps BP in Parma) :
Done this fast, open to checking...

Connacht to lose by 8 --- out of it
Connacht to lose by 6 or by 7 points --- (away) QF against Munster!!!!
Connacht to win without BP, to draw or to lose by 1 to 5 points --- away QF against Sarries
Connacht to win with BP by less than 62 point-margin ---- (away) QF against Leinster!!!!
Connacht to win with BP by more than 62 point-margin ---- (home) QF against Leinster!!!
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9 years 2 months ago - 9 years 2 months ago #51901 by connachta
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Glasgow is hammering Leicester. Could change everthing for the ranks
Don't know who we could back between Munster and Racing then, to have our Munster vs Connacht QF... Point difference will be so tight...
I just get the feeling we will end with Sarries :(
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9 years 2 months ago #51900 by fatgav
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Racing have started well at Thomond, and I think that's a good thing.

Rough top-of-my-head maths tells me that Connacht (if they qualify) will get an Irish team in the Quarter-Final if Munster don't get five points from this one. The alternative is Saracens.

The only caveat would be if Glasgow absolutely hockey Leicester, but it would have to be a 40+ point win.

So the long and short of it is that I'm being patriotic and shouting for the French.

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