Porterbelly wrote: Are the Junior All Blacks not the same thing as the NZ u20's/Baby Blacks

I'm confused

Junior = NZ "A"
Baby = U20

They're so special they don't use the common terms us lesser nations do

Gannon, Moore, Anderson, Brian Murphy, Reynecke, Fifita, Frank Murphy, Loxton, Nolan,

I thought Brian Murphy was being kept on? Did I read that here or somewhere else?

Are the Junior All Blacks not the same thing as the NZ u20's/Baby Blacks

I'm confused

any word on these guys, you'd think a contract would be sorted now and would be nice to know who's going. hand shake and a thank you would be in order if they were at tomorrows game
Gannon, Moore, Anderson, Brian Murphy, Reynecke, Fifita, Frank Murphy, Loxton, Nolan,


Jarvis, gone

galway_gas wrote: IRB Rule 8.2 " A Player who has played for the senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team or the next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team or the senior National Representative Sevens Team of a Union is not eligible to play for the senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team or the next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team or the senior National Representative Sevens Team of another Union. "


Is Heenan an Irish name?

Next Senior National Representative Team 2003-2012
www.irb.com/mm/Document/LawsRegs/Regulat...TeamatJune132012.pdf

Men’s And Women’s Next Senior National Representative Teams 2013
www.irb.com/mm/Document/LawsRegs/Regulat...entativeTeam2013.pdf

IRB Rule 8.2 " A Player who has played for the senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team or the next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team or the senior National Representative Sevens Team of a Union is not eligible to play for the senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team or the next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team or the senior National Representative Sevens Team of another Union. "


Is Heenan an Irish name?

Glad to be wrong! :lol:

Don't we get 5 NIQ spots plus 2 projects? It seems as if White may be reclassified as a project player, but even if he isn't don't we still have room for one more of each (assuming Rodney no longer counts as a project since he qualifies at the end of the year IIRC)

Decadence wrote:

galway_gas wrote: If this is true I assume he will be a project player rather than taking an niq slot.

Doubtful, if Clarke is anything to go by then playing for the 'Baby Blacks' precludes him from becoming IQ

Playing for the baby blacks (U20s) does not preclude him for playing for another nation. Playing for the Junior All-Blacks (NZ "A"), like Craig Clarke, would.

In any case we have only two project spots and 4 other NIE /NIQ for a total of 6 NIQ/NIE spots (one more than the other provinces).

5 are already taken:

White (NIQ/Project?)
Clarke (NIE)
George (NIE)
Parks (NIE)
Poolman (Project)

So regardless of who we sign up - Sinoti or this young Kiwi - that's it for overseas players. If you look at the 5 definites: an experienced TH, a Super 15 winning captain, a quality no.8, our general, and our top try scorer, you'd wonder if either of those options is in that class?

Clarke is a Junior All Black, the NZ 'A' team. The Baby Blacks are the U20s team.

Confuses me all the time, too.

galway_gas wrote: If this is true I assume he will be a project player rather than taking an niq slot.

Doubtful, if Clarke is anything to go by then playing for the 'Baby Blacks' precludes him from becoming IQ

menacethedenis wrote: "Edinburgh have confirmed that four out-of-contract players will not be offered new deals at the end of the season. Centre James King, former Lion Andy Titterell and wing pair Mike Penn and Sep Visser are leaving Murrayfield, joining the already-confirmed exits of Allan Jacobsen, Netani Talei, Richie Rees and John Houston."

Anyone seen Tim Visser's brother Sep play?

That's gotta be a kick in the teeth.Imagine Sunday dinner Conversation at the Visser's:

Mr Visser Snr:Tim this Tim that...
Sep: But Daddy Daddy i ....
Mrs Visser Snr:F**kin Zip it Sep ,shouldn't you be out looking for a job.
Mr Visser Snr:Tim this Tim that...
Sep:But Ma Ma ,it is Sunday.
Mr Visser Snr:Tim Tim Tim Tim ...
Mrs Visser Snr:Ya ,well ,you'll be first in the queue then won't ya.

theCulk wrote: New Zealand under 20 captain in the World Cup jake heenan will be signing on 3 year contract tomorrow. He's a pretty classy 7 and shoul be a goo signing. Rumor from another site

If this is true I assume he will be a project player rather than taking an niq slot.

That's if Carty will even be there

Forgot Ronaldson! :lol:

I imagine it'll be:

Parks
Ronaldson,
Nikora,
Carty

Parks
Nikora
Carty

Who am I missing?

When I said Jack I meant Jack Carty my computer is acting up so the word didn't type out but no I meant Jack Carty as third choice.