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9 years 2 months ago #34824

You have to believe the back room lads are doing everything in their power to bring in signings.
There are 2 reasons I believe it's not happening for us. It's a World Cup year so the big clubs (mostly the French) are snapping up anyone worth signing and the other is that it's looking increasingly unlikely we will have Heineken cup next year. I think the best we can hope for is a few unknowns that come good e.g. McCartney. And let's face it that really wouldn't be a bad thing

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9 years 2 months ago #34835

Connacht Rugby must not! sign any more below par players it's totally counter productive. If the club wants to take the next step they have to get the team, mindset, professionalism and facilities to highest standard. At the moment it is only a 1/4 way there.

I don't like to talk badly of players unless I have to but. In my opinion there are still a number of very average players scattered throughout the squad in very crucial positions.

In the starting 15

1. Carty and Nikora (simply nowhere near good enough)
2. Poolman (very average winger lacks a step and invention)
3. Mckweon, muldoon, browne (very average but get wiped out against top teams) need a massive go to player here, captain material preferably in the xavier rush mould is essential!
4. Need to bring through Romaine and Sean O brien Jr fast in second row fast as good back ups.

I would let go the following and use funds to get two or 3 top quality players.
Out half, massive backrower (captain) and a quality strong finisher outside.

simply are not good enough letting the academy guys gain experience would be better .

Nikora, O'leary, bealham, browne, swift, mils (going anyway), faifita, Henry, jp Clooney, layden.

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9 years 2 months ago #34842

Devils own wrote: Connacht Rugby must not! sign any more below par players it's totally counter productive. If the club wants to take the next step they have to get the team, mindset, professionalism and facilities to highest standard. At the moment it is only a 1/4 way there.

I don't like to talk badly of players unless I have to but. In my opinion there are still a number of very average players scattered throughout the squad in very crucial positions.

In the starting 15

1. Carty and Nikora (simply nowhere near good enough)
2. Poolman (very average winger lacks a step and invention)
3. Mckweon, muldoon, browne (very average but get wiped out against top teams) need a massive go to player here, captain material preferably in the xavier rush mould is essential!
4. Need to bring through Romaine and Sean O brien Jr fast in second row fast as good back ups.

I would let go the following and use funds to get two or 3 top quality players.
Out half, massive backrower (captain) and a quality strong finisher outside.

simply are not good enough letting the academy guys gain experience would be better .

Nikora, O'leary, bealham, browne, swift, mils (going anyway), faifita, Henry, jp Clooney, layden.


What you say is true but its going to be difficult to find better quality in particular this summer with the world cup. We are all desperate for a 10 but there aren't too many options available that are within our range. When you see the sort of wages Gopperth and Hanrahan can attract from Premiership clubs and with European Cup rugby guaranteed its hard to compete.

A lot of the lads you mention have been given new contracts already. We need European Cup Rugby to give us a chance to attract the higher quality players. I'd very much agree with what you say about quality over quantity and it is true that there are some players in the list above who have been held on to just for the sake of padding out the squad and the money could be put to better use.

In fairness, whoever Pat has brought in has been with the intention of improving the squad. Muliaina didn't work out but it was the right line of thinking. Bundee Aki, Tom McCartney, Quinn Roux, John Cooney have all improved us. I haven't seen enough of Shane O'Leary to properly comment. Ian Porter?

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9 years 2 months ago #34847

Devils own wrote: Connacht Rugby must not! sign any more below par players it's totally counter productive. If the club wants to take the next step they have to get the team, mindset, professionalism and facilities to highest standard. At the moment it is only a 1/4 way there.

I don't like to talk badly of players unless I have to but. In my opinion there are still a number of very average players scattered throughout the squad in very crucial positions.

In the starting 15

1. Carty and Nikora (simply nowhere near good enough)
2. Poolman (very average winger lacks a step and invention)
3. Mckweon, muldoon, browne (very average but get wiped out against top teams) need a massive go to player here, captain material preferably in the xavier rush mould is essential!
4. Need to bring through Romaine and Sean O brien Jr fast in second row fast as good back ups.

I would let go the following and use funds to get two or 3 top quality players.
Out half, massive backrower (captain) and a quality strong finisher outside.

simply are not good enough letting the academy guys gain experience would be better .

Nikora, O'leary, bealham, browne, swift, mils (going anyway), faifita, Henry, jp Clooney, layden.


This isn't Football Manager where you can get rid of half your squad and expect international class players in every position. Players salaries are expensive commodities and also have to be Irish qualified. If you can name me Irish qualified players to replace the likes of O'Leary, Browne, Henry, Layden, Bealham and Cooney, who remember are all not on big money I'll tip my hat to you.

O'Leary has played something like two games off the bench and it's his first year in our environment, while also playing well for the Eagles. Browne has more than proved useful in previous years, maybe not this season, but he was a big asset last season and the season before keeping Mul out the team on a few occasions. Stop-start injuries don't help a player and you would be amazed at the difference having a decent pre-season with no injuries has on players. No idea what your beef with Henry is considering he won a player of the month award, so gonna put that down to just wanting to pick on a player for the sake of a rant. Same idea for Bealham, he's been impressive considering his inexperience from the bench. Cooney is our 4th choice and any time he has played he hasn't done himself any shame considering. Layden is just a heartbreaker when you consider his talent, the leg break killed him and nothing else, but he's on a development contract which is absolute peanuts in the budget. What players for the same money can you find to replace these guys? Xavier Rush's of the rugby world aren't exactly the ones available on the Irish and global markets with a World Cup year coming up and the weakness of the Euro.

A lot of these players are players you're talking about are the academy players you want to see make up the squad and aren't taking a chunk of our budget up. We don't have a hell of a lot of money and when you have squad down to the bare bones it isn't easy even at the top. Just look at Leinster for crying out loud.

Also if you're going to criticise players, at least spell their names correct. McKeon, Fafita and Cooney.

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9 years 2 months ago #34849

Borders no.2 wrote:

Devils own wrote: Connacht Rugby must not! sign any more below par players it's totally counter productive. If the club wants to take the next step they have to get the team, mindset, professionalism and facilities to highest standard. At the moment it is only a 1/4 way there.

I don't like to talk badly of players unless I have to but. In my opinion there are still a number of very average players scattered throughout the squad in very crucial positions.

In the starting 15

1. Carty and Nikora (simply nowhere near good enough)
2. Poolman (very average winger lacks a step and invention)
3. Mckweon, muldoon, browne (very average but get wiped out against top teams) need a massive go to player here, captain material preferably in the xavier rush mould is essential!
4. Need to bring through Romaine and Sean O brien Jr fast in second row fast as good back ups.

I would let go the following and use funds to get two or 3 top quality players.
Out half, massive backrower (captain) and a quality strong finisher outside.

simply are not good enough letting the academy guys gain experience would be better .

Nikora, O'leary, bealham, browne, swift, mils (going anyway), faifita, Henry, jp Clooney, layden.


What you say is true but its going to be difficult to find better quality in particular this summer with the world cup. We are all desperate for a 10 but there aren't too many options available that are within our range. When you see the sort of wages Gopperth and Hanrahan can attract from Premiership clubs and with European Cup rugby guaranteed its hard to compete.

A lot of the lads you mention have been given new contracts already. We need European Cup Rugby to give us a chance to attract the higher quality players. I'd very much agree with what you say about quality over quantity and it is true that there are some players in the list above who have been held on to just for the sake of padding out the squad and the money could be put to better use.

In fairness, whoever Pat has brought in has been with the intention of improving the squad. Muliaina didn't work out but it was the right line of thinking. Bundee Aki, Tom McCartney, Quinn Roux, John Cooney have all improved us. I haven't seen enough of Shane O'Leary to properly comment. Ian Porter?


Hey borders,

Ya I'm very much against bringing in anyone who wont significantly add to the team or stop perhaps a prospect in the academy getting a chance.

You are right borders I also think lam has done well in this regard.
it's just I really want to see other connacht rugby fans show ambition to have the stadium, etc and the tenacity to tell other fans they are delusional if they think our best players would move elsewhere to often I see what I describe as capitulation comments.
Leinster could well miss out on a play off spot even with all their advantages we fought for a top 6 place almost right to the end of the season and still should be in contention if we had justice in Cardiff.
It annoys no end that other supporters etc ha think they have some right to judge the team and club if we don't pull the sun out of our backsides the first year we finally and rightfully get a little more parity in funding etc.

We should have no goal but making it to the very top. It was never going to happen overnight but even if we miss out this year on a champions cup place we are on the right track and have made great strides so I wouldn't be down at all.

I would say we have the bones of a very good side in the making and we now just need the 3 pivotal signings to make the next step.

Very happy
Tight head = White and Ah you, ( for me pretty good)
Hooker= McCartney, Henderson, Harris Wright, (good)
Loose Head = Buckley, loughney (bit weak in reserve )
(Walsh and o donnell in academy show promise)
Second row.= roux, muldowney good signings both have shown up well but we could do with a henderson type monster to run over a few opponents (weak in reserve with kearney leaving he us a loss was just beginning to show what he could ( need Romaine and o brien to step up next year) do not think ultan or qualter are good enough for a top 6 ambition.
Backrow= Heenan, Masterson, Naoupu, muldoon, Mckweon. (big problems here I we are physically and mentally weak and other teams get go forward ball way to easily against us injures have hurt us but it's a serious problem site. Personally I think we need a big signing here like I said a xavier rush type who has a rugby brain and will lead from the front.
Masterson and Heenan are quality and have good potential, I think muldoon is a great servant but I would think he should be a back up now and certainly not captain in future. Mckweon is average for me again would be a reserve and Naupou is a total lottery. One signing here already but need another with falcon gone.
Scrum half= Marmion, Conney, porter (perfect extremely good trio)
Out half= carty and Nikora (no way has to be fixed bring no game management and are unreliable kickers) priority! ***
Backs centres = Henshaw, aki (great partnership) Mcsharry is passable but beyond that it kind of drops off a cliff in o leary, finn.
Back three= leader, Toh, poolman healy, (just average overall, no possible future starting or bench Ireland contenders I can see unlike aki and Henshaw which is what we need. So a top quality replacement needed for mils and gaffeney in the academy).

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9 years 2 months ago #34851

its_phil wrote:

Devils own wrote: Connacht Rugby must not! sign any more below par players it's totally counter productive. If the club wants to take the next step they have to get the team, mindset, professionalism and facilities to highest standard. At the moment it is only a 1/4 way there.

I don't like to talk badly of players unless I have to but. In my opinion there are still a number of very average players scattered throughout the squad in very crucial positions.

In the starting 15

1. Carty and Nikora (simply nowhere near good enough)
2. Poolman (very average winger lacks a step and invention)
3. Mckweon, muldoon, browne (very average but get wiped out against top teams) need a massive go to player here, captain material preferably in the xavier rush mould is essential!
4. Need to bring through Romaine and Sean O brien Jr fast in second row fast as good back ups.

I would let go the following and use funds to get two or 3 top quality players.
Out half, massive backrower (captain) and a quality strong finisher outside.

simply are not good enough letting the academy guys gain experience would be better .

Nikora, O'leary, bealham, browne, swift, mils (going anyway), faifita, Henry, jp Clooney, layden.


This isn't Football Manager where you can get rid of half your squad and expect international class players in every position. Players salaries are expensive commodities and also have to be Irish qualified. If you can name me Irish qualified players to replace the likes of O'Leary, Browne, Henry, Layden, Bealham and Cooney, who remember are all not on big money I'll tip my hat to you.

O'Leary has played something like two games off the bench and it's his first year in our environment, while also playing well for the Eagles. Browne has more than proved useful in previous years, maybe not this season, but he was a big asset last season and the season before keeping Mul out the team on a few occasions. Stop-start injuries don't help a player and you would be amazed at the difference having a decent pre-season with no injuries has on players. No idea what your beef with Henry is considering he won a player of the month award, so gonna put that down to just wanting to pick on a player for the sake of a rant. Same idea for Bealham, he's been impressive considering his inexperience from the bench. Cooney is our 4th choice and any time he has played he hasn't done himself any shame considering. Layden is just a heartbreaker when you consider his talent, the leg break killed him and nothing else, but he's on a development contract which is absolute peanuts in the budget. What players for the same money can you find to replace these guys? Xavier Rush's of the rugby world aren't exactly the ones available on the Irish and global markets with a World Cup year coming up and the weakness of the Euro.

A lot of these players are players you're talking about are the academy players you want to see make up the squad and aren't taking a chunk of our budget up. We don't have a hell of a lot of money and when you have squad down to the bare bones it isn't easy even at the top. Just look at Leinster for crying out loud.

Also if you're going to criticise players, at least spell their names correct. McKeon, Fafita and Cooney.



I recommended on here we sign harris wright before he went to bristol aswell as quinn roux and cooney.
The same tired argument you cant this and that was put forth before the last squad trimming when quite a few non performing players were released and a few number of higher quality players were brought in, supplemented now more efficiently by the academy and it worked very well.

Its all about about quality and identifying talent before it becomes too pricey.
I am not talking about buying a squad full of established internationals you are totally wrong in your interpretation i said in one or two pivotal positions we could use money saved elsewhere, if you think any of those i mentioned will go on to the level of a henshaw or marmion or has the potential of a heenen etc then you're entitled to that view.

Irish players with potential that might be loaned or signed or wont break the bank. (not sure of most of their contract situations)


Jack O'Connell (prop)
Ross byrne (outhalf)
James McKinney (outhalf)
Garteeth steenson ( major outhalf )
Cian kelleher (fullback/wing)
adam byrne (fullback /wing)
Ivan dineen (Centre)
Rory scholes (Wing)
Sam arnold (Centre)
Josh van de flier (backrow)
Dave O' Callaghan ((backrow)
Ruaidhrí Murphy (Hooker)

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9 years 2 months ago #34852

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemani_Nadolo
Pat has a new connection with Mr. Nadolo on linked in Wing / Centre - wonder is it a sign of things to come.

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9 years 2 months ago #34858

Devils own wrote:

its_phil wrote:

Devils own wrote: Connacht Rugby must not! sign any more below par players it's totally counter productive. If the club wants to take the next step they have to get the team, mindset, professionalism and facilities to highest standard. At the moment it is only a 1/4 way there.

I don't like to talk badly of players unless I have to but. In my opinion there are still a number of very average players scattered throughout the squad in very crucial positions.

In the starting 15

1. Carty and Nikora (simply nowhere near good enough)
2. Poolman (very average winger lacks a step and invention)
3. Mckweon, muldoon, browne (very average but get wiped out against top teams) need a massive go to player here, captain material preferably in the xavier rush mould is essential!
4. Need to bring through Romaine and Sean O brien Jr fast in second row fast as good back ups.

I would let go the following and use funds to get two or 3 top quality players.
Out half, massive backrower (captain) and a quality strong finisher outside.

simply are not good enough letting the academy guys gain experience would be better .

Nikora, O'leary, bealham, browne, swift, mils (going anyway), faifita, Henry, jp Clooney, layden.


This isn't Football Manager where you can get rid of half your squad and expect international class players in every position. Players salaries are expensive commodities and also have to be Irish qualified. If you can name me Irish qualified players to replace the likes of O'Leary, Browne, Henry, Layden, Bealham and Cooney, who remember are all not on big money I'll tip my hat to you.

O'Leary has played something like two games off the bench and it's his first year in our environment, while also playing well for the Eagles. Browne has more than proved useful in previous years, maybe not this season, but he was a big asset last season and the season before keeping Mul out the team on a few occasions. Stop-start injuries don't help a player and you would be amazed at the difference having a decent pre-season with no injuries has on players. No idea what your beef with Henry is considering he won a player of the month award, so gonna put that down to just wanting to pick on a player for the sake of a rant. Same idea for Bealham, he's been impressive considering his inexperience from the bench. Cooney is our 4th choice and any time he has played he hasn't done himself any shame considering. Layden is just a heartbreaker when you consider his talent, the leg break killed him and nothing else, but he's on a development contract which is absolute peanuts in the budget. What players for the same money can you find to replace these guys? Xavier Rush's of the rugby world aren't exactly the ones available on the Irish and global markets with a World Cup year coming up and the weakness of the Euro.

A lot of these players are players you're talking about are the academy players you want to see make up the squad and aren't taking a chunk of our budget up. We don't have a hell of a lot of money and when you have squad down to the bare bones it isn't easy even at the top. Just look at Leinster for crying out loud.

Also if you're going to criticise players, at least spell their names correct. McKeon, Fafita and Cooney.



I recommended on here we sign harris wright before he went to bristol aswell as quinn roux and cooney.
The same tired argument you cant this and that was put forth before the last squad trimming when quite a few non performing players were released and a few number of higher quality players were brought in, supplemented now more efficiently by the academy and it worked very well.

Its all about about quality and identifying talent before it becomes too pricey.
I am not talking about buying a squad full of established internationals you are totally wrong in your interpretation i said in one or two pivotal positions we could use money saved elsewhere, if you think any of those i mentioned will go on to the level of a henshaw or marmion or has the potential of a heenen etc then you're entitled to that view.

Irish players with potential that might be loaned or signed or wont break the bank. (not sure of most of their contract situations)


Jack O'Connell (prop)
Ross byrne (outhalf)
James McKinney (outhalf)
Garteeth steenson ( major outhalf )
Cian kelleher (fullback/wing)
adam byrne (fullback /wing)
Ivan dineen (Centre)
Rory scholes (Wing)
Sam arnold (Centre)
Josh van de flier (backrow)
Dave O' Callaghan ((backrow)
Ruaidhrí Murphy (Hooker)


Jack O'Connell (prop) - Starting loosehead prop at Bristol with another year on contract.
Ross byrne (outhalf) - Not finished in UCD or Leinster Academy and possibly called upon for Leinster during WC.
James McKinney (outhalf) - Just signed another year on contract at Rotherham
Garteeth steenson ( major outhalf ) - No chance and on very good money at Exeter. New 3 year deal signed IIRC
Cian kelleher (fullback/wing) - No chance Leinster will let this lad go, especially with World Cup depth
adam byrne (fullback /wing) - Most overrated player going due to a few minutes off the bench in
Ivan dineen (Centre) - Might not be first choice at Munster, but probably won't do any better here
Rory scholes (Wing) - Fair point, don't know contract status but we have plenty of depth at wing
Sam arnold (Centre) - Too young and still in university I would imagine
Josh van de flier (backrow) - Needed for WC and contract just signed
Dave O' Callaghan ((backrow) - No chance munster will let this lad leave and just signed one-year deal. Maybe next year but i just can't see Munster letting him go
Ruaidhrí Murphy (Hooker) - A prop and bit of a journeyman at this stage. No value in him IMO

I'd do anything for Byrne, and even Kelleher (already rejected Connacht two years ago), but the majority of players you've posted are not available.

Cooney and Roux (pretty sure we got them on their first pro contract terms for this season) have been signed but it won't have been cheap for next season.

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9 years 2 months ago #34860

its_phil wrote:

Devils own wrote:

its_phil wrote:

Devils own wrote: Connacht Rugby must not! sign any more below par players it's totally counter productive. If the club wants to take the next step they have to get the team, mindset, professionalism and facilities to highest standard. At the moment it is only a 1/4 way there.

I don't like to talk badly of players unless I have to but. In my opinion there are still a number of very average players scattered throughout the squad in very crucial positions.

In the starting 15

1. Carty and Nikora (simply nowhere near good enough)
2. Poolman (very average winger lacks a step and invention)
3. Mckweon, muldoon, browne (very average but get wiped out against top teams) need a massive go to player here, captain material preferably in the xavier rush mould is essential!
4. Need to bring through Romaine and Sean O brien Jr fast in second row fast as good back ups.

I would let go the following and use funds to get two or 3 top quality players.
Out half, massive backrower (captain) and a quality strong finisher outside.

simply are not good enough letting the academy guys gain experience would be better .

Nikora, O'leary, bealham, browne, swift, mils (going anyway), faifita, Henry, jp Clooney, layden.


This isn't Football Manager where you can get rid of half your squad and expect international class players in every position. Players salaries are expensive commodities and also have to be Irish qualified. If you can name me Irish qualified players to replace the likes of O'Leary, Browne, Henry, Layden, Bealham and Cooney, who remember are all not on big money I'll tip my hat to you.

O'Leary has played something like two games off the bench and it's his first year in our environment, while also playing well for the Eagles. Browne has more than proved useful in previous years, maybe not this season, but he was a big asset last season and the season before keeping Mul out the team on a few occasions. Stop-start injuries don't help a player and you would be amazed at the difference having a decent pre-season with no injuries has on players. No idea what your beef with Henry is considering he won a player of the month award, so gonna put that down to just wanting to pick on a player for the sake of a rant. Same idea for Bealham, he's been impressive considering his inexperience from the bench. Cooney is our 4th choice and any time he has played he hasn't done himself any shame considering. Layden is just a heartbreaker when you consider his talent, the leg break killed him and nothing else, but he's on a development contract which is absolute peanuts in the budget. What players for the same money can you find to replace these guys? Xavier Rush's of the rugby world aren't exactly the ones available on the Irish and global markets with a World Cup year coming up and the weakness of the Euro.

A lot of these players are players you're talking about are the academy players you want to see make up the squad and aren't taking a chunk of our budget up. We don't have a hell of a lot of money and when you have squad down to the bare bones it isn't easy even at the top. Just look at Leinster for crying out loud.

Also if you're going to criticise players, at least spell their names correct. McKeon, Fafita and Cooney.



I recommended on here we sign harris wright before he went to bristol aswell as quinn roux and cooney.
The same tired argument you cant this and that was put forth before the last squad trimming when quite a few non performing players were released and a few number of higher quality players were brought in, supplemented now more efficiently by the academy and it worked very well.

Its all about about quality and identifying talent before it becomes too pricey.
I am not talking about buying a squad full of established internationals you are totally wrong in your interpretation i said in one or two pivotal positions we could use money saved elsewhere, if you think any of those i mentioned will go on to the level of a henshaw or marmion or has the potential of a heenen etc then you're entitled to that view.

Irish players with potential that might be loaned or signed or wont break the bank. (not sure of most of their contract situations)


Jack O'Connell (prop)
Ross byrne (outhalf)
James McKinney (outhalf)
Garteeth steenson ( major outhalf )
Cian kelleher (fullback/wing)
adam byrne (fullback /wing)
Ivan dineen (Centre)
Rory scholes (Wing)
Sam arnold (Centre)
Josh van de flier (backrow)
Dave O' Callaghan ((backrow)
Ruaidhrí Murphy (Hooker)


Jack O'Connell (prop) - Starting loosehead prop at Bristol with another year on contract.
Ross byrne (outhalf) - Not finished in UCD or Leinster Academy and possibly called upon for Leinster during WC.
James McKinney (outhalf) - Just signed another year on contract at Rotherham
Garteeth steenson ( major outhalf ) - No chance and on very good money at Exeter. New 3 year deal signed IIRC
Cian kelleher (fullback/wing) - No chance Leinster will let this lad go, especially with World Cup depth
adam byrne (fullback /wing) - Most overrated player going due to a few minutes off the bench in
Ivan dineen (Centre) - Might not be first choice at Munster, but probably won't do any better here
Rory scholes (Wing) - Fair point, don't know contract status but we have plenty of depth at wing
Sam arnold (Centre) - Too young and still in university I would imagine
Josh van de flier (backrow) - Needed for WC and contract just signed
Dave O' Callaghan ((backrow) - No chance munster will let this lad leave and just signed one-year deal. Maybe next year but i just can't see Munster letting him go
Ruaidhrí Murphy (Hooker) - A prop and bit of a journeyman at this stage. No value in him IMO

I'd do anything for Byrne, and even Kelleher (already rejected Connacht two years ago), but the majority of players you've posted are not available.

Cooney and Roux (pretty sure we got them on their first pro contract terms for this season) have been signed but it won't have been cheap for next season.


The Connacht of two years ago was a very different prospect. We are now credibly able to challenge for a top 6-7 spot and can make the champions cup along with the other Irish provinces through the league that's a huge difference. We have established international squad members and a international coach from abroad who isn't tarred with the the old past age redundant bias of some of his predecessors.

As I said I was not exactly aware of their contracts situations but I'm sure the Irish based contingent are all available for loan if both parties agree.
Roux was contracted to Leinster and we signed him on loan. Until he was free to sign with us we do not have to fully sign every player mentioned as I stated.

I'd bite your hand off for Sam Arnold he is most definitely not too young Imo, if your good enough your old enough.
Henshaw was a similar age when he made such an impact. He would be a fantastic addition to the squad.

www.ulsterrugby.com/News/LatestNews/TabI...ake-Ulster-bow-.aspx

Kelleher, Byrne, could all be loaned aswell (college transfer to nuig if required) for a year instead of warming a bench if that, although Byrne as you say could be their world cup out if they don't recruit a versatile step in which they may well do. They have a lot of potential.

De flier also could also be loaned and that should be facilitied by nicifora which let's be honest is part of his job, with powerful trio of Conan, Ryan, mclaughlin outside another top 4 international class back rowers he will be lucky even with the world cup factor to start much, your attitude seems to be let's not even bother to pursue and persuade them. Connacht Rugby is the up and coming place to be which should be our pitch. I was only mentioning Irish qualified players at present, I hope Lam has his eye on a project player beast from the south seas to put nick Williams to shame etc or a 10.

I very much doubt Leinster will not add to their squad depth significantly in the interim for the world cup.

Jack O'Connell should be on our radar good player, a pity we did not snap him up would be very good competition with buckley.

Scholes is an above average player he is has impressed in a u20 world cup has a bit more of an x factor which is what we need and don't really have in abundance. He will find it very hard to get into ulsters team that is jam packed with backs. No offence but our back three bar livewire healy have created not a great deal all season although they do work hard to their credit.
Adding Kelleher, Scholes and Arnold to the back division would be a big benefit.

I can't see how you know so emphatically that players like doc Jr stuck behind Peter o mahony cj stander, copeland and tod might not consider a career move although granted it would be hard to pry him away but nothing ventured nothing gained.

Dinnen is 27 not high on my shopping list either but has to move now and try his luck he won't get a look in with new signings and current squad, he would only be a back up in connacht aswell most likely I agree but with our injuries every season he is bound to get far more game time and can improve the squad in general if only slightly.

We have three fine hookers in McCartney, heffernan and Harris Wright but calling ruaidhri Murphy a journey man at 27 is a little harsh. He has played U20 for ireland basically went straight from Leinster to exeter chiefs and then played 2 seasons in super rugby with the brambles (which is nice on any cv) he is also a mobile 119kg compare that with Sean Henry who is injured a lot and outside of connacht only got 7 munster second string starts. I actually think 3 hookers are fine but if I wanted a fourth I know who id go with.

Right well if Mckinney has signed abroad already then that's that, capable young out half, we are not overloaded with them so IRFU should have tried to get him to stay. Steenson obviously a huge long shot, he would surely have gotten a few Irish caps by now if he came home which is a shame.

Saw adam byrne play at Leinster again not at the top of my list either but thought he looked dangerous, you say overated ok but surely more possible potential than a few of our current squad.

If we could get a few of those mentioned on loan etc and release a few others that we all know are not quite the level or potential level more importantly we need now, then I think it's the right way to go for Connacht Rugby.

Anyway I'm sure plenty will disagree but just my view and that's what a forum is for.

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9 years 2 months ago #34866

Hasn't MOC said that he won't loan out any players from now on like he did with Roux and Cooney?

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9 years 2 months ago #34872

MOC got his knuckles wrapped over the weekend by the IRFU, basically told to shut up and put up over the player welfare issue, Id say hes not flavour of the month there. If the Irfu and a player want a move they will make it happen, regardles of what the coach wants.


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9 years 2 months ago #34875

The silence on the signings front and no word on McFarlands replacement has me worried for next season earlier than usual!


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9 years 2 months ago #34880

Perhaps we should look to sign John Quill? USA international on a short term contract with London Welsh but otherwise playing with Dolphin in the AIL. Seems like he would at least make for good cover at an inexpensive price. Don't know if he would count as NIQ or not. He is Irish but lines out for the USA.

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9 years 2 months ago #34882

If he has played a test for the US Eagles or the A side he is NIQ as far as I know.


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9 years 2 months ago #34884

Yeah, wasn't sure how that worked when the person was a citizen of Ireland but cap-tied to another country. I went ahead and had a look and there are a few US internationals playing in the AIL. Liam Murphy (Clontarf) and Tim Maupin (Trinity) being the others. Maybe instead of always looking south for our NIQ players we should look west for an inexpensive gem.

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9 years 2 months ago #35120

Connacht Rugby wrote: Connacht Rugby confirm departing players
For immediate release: Saturday 16 May 2015
Issued on behalf of Connacht Rugby

Connacht Rugby can today confirm that the following players will leave the province at the end of the 2014/15 season:

Michael Swift (263 appearances)*
Miah Nikora (82 appearances)*
Mick Kearney (68 appearances)
Willie Faloon (39 appearances)
Sean Henry (16 appearances)
Mata Fifita (15 appearances)
Mils Muliaina (11 appearances)
Shane Layden (4 appearances)

*appearances up to PRO12 round 21

Willie Ruane, CEO at Connacht Rugby, said: "We would like to thank all of the players for their commitment to Connacht Rugby during their time at the club and wish them the very best as they take up fresh challenges and the next stage of their careers.

"We will pay tribute to their contribution with presentations to them on the pitch and at our Awards Night following Saturday's home game with Ospreys."

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