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3 weeks 1 day ago #63941 by Sol_ie
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Yep, always highly rated Cooney (obviously). If he acquits himself well I've a funny feeling he might leapfrog McGrath for the No. 3 spot.

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3 weeks 1 day ago #63943 by sligsup
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Sol_ie wrote: Yep, always highly rated Cooney (obviously). If he acquits himself well I've a funny feeling he might leapfrog McGrath for the No. 3 spot.


Don't tell gavin cummiskey that ...... you'll ruin his weekend :P
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3 weeks 1 day ago #63944 by greyingbeard
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The 3rd scrum half in the WC squad could come down to whether or not Joe wants a third out half in the squad. If Joe wants the best three out and out 9's then McGrath will probably edge Cooney, if Joe goes with just Sexton and Carbery as 10's then Cooney might sneak ahead as he can cover 10 in training or an emergency.
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3 weeks 1 day ago #63951 by sea_point
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greyingbeard wrote: The 3rd scrum half in the WC squad could come down to whether or not Joe wants a third out half in the squad. If Joe wants the best three out and out 9's then McGrath will probably edge Cooney, if Joe goes with just Sexton and Carbery as 10's then Cooney might sneak ahead as he can cover 10 in training or an emergency.


In a straight head to head as SH, I'd have Cooney ahead anyway.
Then add his kicking and versatility...

Now that he's in the setup, barring injury I'd expect him to pull ahead in Joe's reckoning...

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3 weeks 10 hours ago #63957 by Siob
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If Cooney takes the kicks today instead of Carbery, then I think he'll be going to Japan. Schmidt has already decided that Carbery is the 2nd choice fly-half, so Cooney's accuracy could book his flight.

Ireland also have a controlled style of play, Marmion has proven to the coaches that he can rein in his natural instincts to run everything in order to play the required style, Cooney naturally plays a more controlled game so he'll slot right in. I always thought that the difference in playing styles was why Cooney had to leave, he was and is too good a player to be second choice, but Marmion suited the running rugby Connacht were aiming for better.

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3 weeks 1 hour ago #63961 by columoc
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Joey's versatility means that Joe S. has more options. My bet, is that there will be 3 10s including Joey as utility back, which means Ross Byrne would travel. Then three scrumhalves will be Murray, Marmion & McGrath. Cooney will only travel if there are injuries.

More interesting will be locks, with Ryan, Dev and Henderson shoe ins, Quinn's best hope is that Beirne is seen as a utility forward. Finlay has only an outside chance.

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2 weeks 6 days ago #63962 by MulMan
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I thought Quinn did well when he came on last night, settled the lineout, and did a good job in open play, unfortunately I thought Finlay wasn't involved enough and didn't make an impact with the carries he had, to make matters worse, John Ryan was coming on against a tired team which made him look better than he is, still Finlay's more proven versatility might get him in ahead of Ryan for the RWC.
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2 weeks 6 days ago #63963 by Sol_ie
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Took his chances well. Not a very cohesive squad (obviously). Would’ve been a bit much to get Tom Farrell in there, but think he would’ve added something to the backs.

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2 weeks 6 days ago - 2 weeks 6 days ago #63964 by Bazzo
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MulMan wrote: I thought Quinn did well when he came on last night, settled the lineout, and did a good job in open play, unfortunately I thought Finlay wasn't involved enough and didn't make an impact with the carries he had, to make matters worse, John Ryan was coming on against a tired team which made him look better than he is, still Finlay's more proven versatility might get him in ahead of Ryan for the RWC.


Yeah felt bad for Finlay, he may be back behind Ryan now. He had a middling game but to be fair to him the US loosehead collapsed the scrum in 2 of the first 3 scrums without being penalised and on the third they were being marched backwards but managed to get the ball out, which was fairly common throughout the game. He did end up going backwards once I think but overall he scrummaged strongly.

By the time Ryan came on the US loosehead was absolutely knackered and when he was replaced Cian Healy was on who is about ten times the scrummager Kikcoyne is.

Of course Schmidt probably knows all that but at the same time Bealham probably needed to be putting in a few more dominant tackles and ruck clearances, though looking at the size of that US team that might have been a big ask.

Verdict on Heaslip's commentary hasn't changed. A wonderful commentator if you want to hear about how great any Leinster players involved are.
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2 weeks 4 days ago #63975 by Betty Swallocks
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I see Mick Cleary in today's Telegraph has five Irishmen in the "Team of the November Internationals" including Kieran Marmion at 9. What price now the snide dribblings of Neil Francis?
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2 weeks 11 hours ago #64013 by Magpie
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A more balanced and realistic appraisal of how individuals performed in the November internationals

Quinn Roux is rated highly, and barring injury or drop in form I think he'll go to Japan.

m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/internation...ionals-37583544.html
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